Sermon by Pastor Jay Bakker. For September 16th, 2012 at Pete’s Candy Store in Brooklyn, NY.
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Lectures on Philosophical Theology by Immanuel Kant
Posted by Paolo
I listened to your sermon from last week (9/16)and it fit right in with an understanding I’ve been evolving regarding the Atonement. I don’t claim to have “found the Truth”, but it really feels right to the gut and seems sensible to the mind.
It is essentially this. The Atonement wasn’t “necessary” in order for God to forgive us — He can and did forgive us without it. That is what I always got stuck on — God shouldn’t “need” a sacrifice to do it. But God understands us very well, and knew that without a sacrifice of that nature we would be less likely to accept His forgiveness. He couldn’t “make” us accept it as that would render it meaningless, but he could arrange a sacrifice that would make it easier for more of us to accept it.
Anyway, as I said it makes sense to me as well as passing the “gut” test. I hadn’t thought of it from the angle you discussed; i.e., whether punishment (even indirect) contravenes the very notion of forgiveness. But it occurs to me that the notion of “a sacrifice that encourages us to accept forgiveness” solves that problem too.
Thank you again for all that you do!
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